Two intelligent members dish it out. One is a leader and the other is a Northwestern University grad student.


James Hankook Chung
Anyone else sick of this two party system?
This election was a joke.
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  • Chul Han Lee, Chris Lee and 8 others like this.
  • Linus J. Park Well, at least I know my new president is hip and cool and a lot of celebrities are his homies
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  • Jeno Lee I hear you brother. That's what makes this country beautiful and frustrating at the same time though.. know what I mean? Where in the world are you this free to agree and disagree in our political views and still be friends, respecting each other? It was a joke in many sense, and this country is more divided than ever.. but this will pass too, as everything else will. Do what you do everyday to make that positive impact in your life day in, day out. One life at a time... no matter how frustrating, no matter who the current president...
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  • Linus J. Park I think two party system works better than the alternatives... I think changing to straight popular vote for the president would increase voter turnout and spread the millions of $ spent in Ohio and Florida. There is no good reason reason to keep the electoral system.
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  • James Hankook Chung I am for a straight popular vote as well. I think it's about time we abolish the electoral college. But regarding the two party system, doesn't it create an either-or fallacy without an alternative? Just a thought. At Jeno Lee I definitely am thankful for our "freedom" of speech. Thank God for the internet. And as for things passing? They do pass, but with consequences. Anyways, we need more of the Church, not the government to make the "positive" impacts no matter our current president. Thanks for your thoughts!

  • Jeno Lee Huh? I wasn't talking about the freedom of speech... hehe... and I wasn't talking about the government making positive impacts either... maybe we can talk sometime. :)
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  • James Hankook Chung I was making the connection with your statement where you said, "Where in the world are you this free to agree and disagree in our political views and still be friends, respecting each other?" And also, as you have stated through encouragement, "Do what you do everyday to make that positive impact in your life day in, day out." I just wanted to go on my soap box with your statement. But other than that, the former seemed to me a corollary for an expression of speech.
  • James Hankook Chung And I liked your comment in relation to, "maybe we can talk sometime" ;)
  • Linus J. Park Two party system doesn't mean that you have a false dichotomy, since selecting one party doesn't mean you're choosing a specific decision. (Each party has a complex sets of interdependent positions, so if the outcome of choosing either party is certain, it gets close to a dichotomy, but even within one party there usually is some variance of political beliefs--though it is more polarized these days).
  • Linus J. Park The alternative to the two party system in the real world isn't a real third choice, rather in practice, you end up with a more extreme political system. When you have a viable third party minority, that third party tends to take a extreme position and usually has a much greater influence in the political system than their minority representation warrants. If a third (or fourth) party were to emerge in US, it won't be in the middle of the two party (usually people who wants something different tends to arise from the extremes, e.g. Tea Party) it'll be right of the Republicans or left of the Democrats. Because the extreme position would suck in the people in the border line of the existing party, the existing party weakens and they have to take some of the positions of the third minority party in order to achieve a majority in the political process. When you look at the multi-party system across Europe, you'll find that there is a skewed over-representation of extreme positions while in the bipartisan system, there is an under-representation of extreme position at the national level. So the reason that I think the bipartisan system is better than the alternative is similar what I think about democracy, it sucks less than most other realistic alternatives.
  • Linus J. Park Oh and why do I prefer under-representation of extreme views in politics? Because of my assumption that government and bureaucracy will find a way to screw things up and when you have the political extremists having more influence, the magnitude of that screw up will be even bigger...
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  • James Hankook Chung It seemed for me that obama and romney are on opposite ends on all of the issues. Also, obama doesn't have that great of a track record for being bipartisan on certain issues. I am not for extreme parties to be over represented (assuming that we are on the same page of what extreme may denote). I may be wrong on this point, but the bipartisan system, at least for this election, seemed like there is no room for compromise and that the meaning of bipartisanship has lost its very definition. More than two people trying to work together for the good of the nation, it seemed more like a sports rivalry than anything. Anyways, you do bring up a good point on the probability of political extremists causing more harm than the political status quo. Well, I'm just glad that the world will be ending in December of this year, so none of this won't be a problem ;D

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